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Post by cjmjones008 on Sept 24, 2008 16:39:12 GMT -5
yes i know he rushed for 18tds and 210 yards dont try and make him sound fast... he had average at best speed lol never said he's fast, but I'd say he's mobile enough to create space or run if needed. Matt Ryan had like 30 yards in his 4 year career at BC. Regardless, Detroit Lions/Matt Millen suck. the ACC has more than 1 team that actually plays defense Yes the Lions and Millen both suck. They were a perfect fit togethor.
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Post by youngstabullz on Sept 24, 2008 16:40:16 GMT -5
Tank Johnson is the only 300 pound Football player to run a 40 in under 5 secs.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Sept 24, 2008 16:42:20 GMT -5
fascinating!
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Post by Ducky on Sept 24, 2008 16:42:44 GMT -5
It's actually rather unfortunate that Millen is gone...
Now the Packers might actually finally have some competition from Detroit. GB is gonna run it this year.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Sept 24, 2008 16:44:13 GMT -5
In other news,
the offer for emeka has been increased!
Minny 2012 1st and expiring
yeeeeeeeeeee
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Post by cjmjones008 on Sept 24, 2008 16:46:21 GMT -5
It's actually rather unfortunate that Millen is gone... Now the Packers might actually finally have some competition from Detroit. GB is gonna run it this year. The Lions are destined to suck dick. I'm not going to worry until they draft one of the Junior QBs in next years draft
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Post by Play on Sept 24, 2008 18:31:15 GMT -5
It's actually rather unfortunate that Millen is gone... Now the Packers might actually finally have some competition from Detroit. GB is gonna run it this year. stfu packers fan
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Post by cjmjones008 on Sept 24, 2008 18:43:00 GMT -5
Lets all look at Kyle Orton and laugh
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Post by Play on Sept 24, 2008 18:46:19 GMT -5
Lets all look at Kyle Orton and laugh Orton has been solid so far.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Sept 24, 2008 18:50:37 GMT -5
I know
it will always be funny to me
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Post by Jay on Sept 24, 2008 18:58:32 GMT -5
worst franchise in sports? They aren't even the worst franchise in football. That honor goes to the Arizona Cardinals. That team has no relevant history whatsoever. AMAZING news for Detroiters. I felt like running around campus rejoicing. It's about damn time. Now Kitna's punk ass is gone too. The Lions have never been great, but at least pre-Millen they made the damn playoffs. Ducky, Joey Harrington was destined to suck.
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Post by GMGreggor on Sept 24, 2008 19:17:54 GMT -5
I think Harrington had some talent but his confidence was just shattered in Detroit. He was'nt a probowler or anything but I think he would have been a serviceable QB in a different situation.
On another note, the 40 time is so overated at QB it's a non issue.
Whats more important is agility. The ability to sidestep rushers,dance around them a little.
Aikman had 4.6 speed I believe but poor agility avoiding the rush.
Marino had 6.6 speed with the wind behind him but had the ability to sidestep and avoid tackles many times.
Unless you are running the wishbone offense the 40 time for a QB does'nt mean crap.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Sept 24, 2008 19:18:36 GMT -5
Joey Harrington, Matt Millen, and the Detroit Lions were all put together for one reason. They are destined to suck.
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Post by Ducky on Sept 24, 2008 19:19:00 GMT -5
It's actually rather unfortunate that Millen is gone... Now the Packers might actually finally have some competition from Detroit. GB is gonna run it this year. stfu packers fan Packers are the shit bro, stfu.
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Post by Ducky on Sept 24, 2008 19:19:42 GMT -5
I think Harrington had some talent but his confidence was just shattered in Detroit. He was'nt a probowler or anything but I think he would have been a serviceable QB in a different situation. On another note, the 40 time is so overated at QB it's a non issue. Whats more important is agility. The ability to sidestep rushers,dance around them a little. Aikman had 4.6 speed I believe but poor agility avoiding the rush. Marino had 6.6 speed with the wind behind him but had the ability to sidestep and avoid tackles many times. Unless you are running the wishbone offense the 40 time for a QB does'nt mean crap. Exactly. All QBs that go to Detroit suck as long as Millen is still running the show.
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Post by Jay on Sept 24, 2008 20:30:10 GMT -5
Joey was always going to be an average QB. Whoever that QB coach is, just produces great college QBs that go pro and suck.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Sept 24, 2008 20:41:21 GMT -5
I think Harrington had some talent but his confidence was just shattered in Detroit. He was'nt a probowler or anything but I think he would have been a serviceable QB in a different situation. On another note, the 40 time is so overated at QB it's a non issue. Whats more important is agility. The ability to sidestep rushers,dance around them a little. Aikman had 4.6 speed I believe but poor agility avoiding the rush. Marino had 6.6 speed with the wind behind him but had the ability to sidestep and avoid tackles many times. Unless you are running the wishbone offense the 40 time for a QB does'nt mean crap. Man that Reggie Bush sure is a bust
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Post by Funky George! on Sept 24, 2008 20:51:27 GMT -5
I think Harrington had some talent but his confidence was just shattered in Detroit. He was'nt a probowler or anything but I think he would have been a serviceable QB in a different situation. On another note, the 40 time is so overated at QB it's a non issue. Whats more important is agility. The ability to sidestep rushers,dance around them a little. Aikman had 4.6 speed I believe but poor agility avoiding the rush. Marino had 6.6 speed with the wind behind him but had the ability to sidestep and avoid tackles many times. Unless you are running the wishbone offense the 40 time for a QB does'nt mean crap. He still looks horrendous carrying the ball. Man that Reggie Bush sure is a bust
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Post by cjmjones008 on Sept 24, 2008 21:04:53 GMT -5
I think Harrington had some talent but his confidence was just shattered in Detroit. He was'nt a probowler or anything but I think he would have been a serviceable QB in a different situation. On another note, the 40 time is so overated at QB it's a non issue. Whats more important is agility. The ability to sidestep rushers,dance around them a little. Aikman had 4.6 speed I believe but poor agility avoiding the rush. Marino had 6.6 speed with the wind behind him but had the ability to sidestep and avoid tackles many times. Unless you are running the wishbone offense the 40 time for a QB does'nt mean crap. Exactly. All QBs that go to Detroit suck as long as Millen is still running the show. Jon Kitna has been doing fine
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Post by GMGreggor on Sept 24, 2008 21:06:42 GMT -5
I think Harrington had some talent but his confidence was just shattered in Detroit. He was'nt a probowler or anything but I think he would have been a serviceable QB in a different situation. On another note, the 40 time is so overated at QB it's a non issue. Whats more important is agility. The ability to sidestep rushers,dance around them a little. Aikman had 4.6 speed I believe but poor agility avoiding the rush. Marino had 6.6 speed with the wind behind him but had the ability to sidestep and avoid tackles many times. Unless you are running the wishbone offense the 40 time for a QB does'nt mean crap. Man that Reggie Bush sure is a bust He's started fairly well this year rec and punt returns but look at his rushing stat line. 42 att,152 yds,50.7YPG,3.6avg,1 TD Thats not killing anyone. He's a 3rd down back out of the backfield. And I still stand by what I said. He was'nt worth being the 2nd pick in the draft. I never said he wont have an NFL career. I said he was picked waaay too high. He's not a franchise back.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Sept 24, 2008 21:13:04 GMT -5
I don't think many people expected Reggie Bush to be a franchise back. They expected him to be a playmaker who could take any screen, any pass in the flat, or kick return for a TD. He has developed into this and is going to get better.
1 Mario Williams DE North Carolina State Houston Texans 2 Reggie Bush RB USC New Orleans Saints 3 Vince Young QB Texas Tennessee Titans 4 D'Brickashaw Ferguson T Virginia New York Jets 5 A.J. Hawk OLB Ohio State Green Bay Packers 6 Vernon Davis TE Maryland San Francisco 49ers 7 Michael Huff SS Texas Oakland Raiders 8 Donte Whitner SS Ohio State Buffalo Bills 9 Ernie Sims OLB Florida State Detroit Lions 10 Matt Leinart QB USC Arizona Cardinals
Still not worth the #2 pick?
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Sept 24, 2008 21:18:12 GMT -5
He still looks horrendous carrying the ball. Man that Reggie Bush sure is a bust Again, every argument against Reggie Bush his his "rushing" stat. Reggie Bush is a better player than Adrian Peterson. Adrian Peterson is a better running back than Reggie Bush. Take that for however you want, but it's the absolute truth. Reggie Bush can do so many things most RBs can't. You can line him up anywhere on the field and create mis-matches. He returns kicks, punts, etc.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Sept 24, 2008 21:18:36 GMT -5
I don't think many people expected Reggie Bush to be a franchise back. They expected him to be a playmaker who could take any screen, any pass in the flat, or kick return for a TD. He has developed into this and is going to get better. 1 Mario Williams DE North Carolina State Houston Texans 2 Reggie Bush RB USC New Orleans Saints 3 Vince Young QB Texas Tennessee Titans 4 D'Brickashaw Ferguson T Virginia New York Jets 5 A.J. Hawk OLB Ohio State Green Bay Packers 6 Vernon Davis TE Maryland San Francisco 49ers 7 Michael Huff SS Texas Oakland Raiders 8 Donte Whitner SS Ohio State Buffalo Bills 9 Ernie Sims OLB Florida State Detroit Lions 10 Matt Leinart QB USC Arizona Cardinals Still not worth the #2 pick? someone with fucking football knowledge, holy hell. Thank you.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Sept 24, 2008 21:28:37 GMT -5
The only way Bush can run for a huge amount of yards is by getting him to become a 1 cut runner and putting him in the zone blocking scheme. No zone blocking scheme team is taking a RB that high though.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Sept 24, 2008 21:31:38 GMT -5
The only way Bush can run for a huge amount of yards is by getting him to become a 1 cut runner and putting him in the zone blocking scheme. No zone blocking scheme team is taking a RB that high though. Though, like you said before, he was never brought in for that. They drafted him for his versatile abilities. I mean they already had a 1,000 yard rusher in Deuce when they took Bush.
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