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Post by Phoenix Phil on Oct 20, 2008 23:50:19 GMT -5
Marty brought up the Black Album and American Gangster. I was simply responding to his comments on those specific albums.
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Post by Speed Racer on Oct 20, 2008 23:51:29 GMT -5
REGULATORSS! MOUNT UP!
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Oct 20, 2008 23:54:50 GMT -5
you wish you could suck his ass
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Post by Dave on Oct 20, 2008 23:55:35 GMT -5
1. Biggie 2. Jay-z 3. Tupac 4. Nas 5. Rakim 6. KRS-One 7. Scarface 8. Eminem 9. LL Cool J 10. Common
Other Mentions(No Order) Chuck D Snoop Dogg Ice Cube Method Man Red Man Big Pun Dr Dre DMX Big L Easy E Ghostface Killah Most Def
Also one of my favorite rappers who is right from around Spencer's hood
Too $hort
He is sick but doesn't get too much love in the main scene
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Post by Dave on Oct 20, 2008 23:57:14 GMT -5
oh yea I really hate any rap that is out now
Lil Wayne Jeezy yeezy whatever his name is TI chris brown RB Titans game etc.
I think they all suck
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Post by DB on Oct 20, 2008 23:58:16 GMT -5
i love lil wayne and T.I, fucking great.
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Post by Dave on Oct 20, 2008 23:59:20 GMT -5
i love lil wayne and T.I, fucking great. You would
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Post by Dave on Oct 20, 2008 23:59:42 GMT -5
Does anyone know who Too $hort is?
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Post by DB on Oct 21, 2008 0:00:35 GMT -5
i love lil wayne and T.I, fucking great. You would T.I new album is awesome.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Oct 21, 2008 0:04:11 GMT -5
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Post by Speed Racer on Oct 21, 2008 0:04:27 GMT -5
T.I. is alright. Wayne is awful.
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Post by Dave on Oct 21, 2008 0:10:01 GMT -5
Also I don't know why everyone is hating on Eminem his albums are dope you can listen to them all the way through and jam to every song from 1 to last. His songs are catchy and he can spit. I don't want to hear that he sang about his mom, gf, daughter like other rappers talk about the struggles of the hood or the beatles sang about love and war. Shit everyone talks about shit but eminem talked about a lot things from white america, suicide, his rise to fame and how he handled it, government, and more. I think he is really talented and he had to prove a lot people wrong because he was a white boy
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Post by Dave on Oct 21, 2008 0:11:07 GMT -5
Yea I was surprised he didn't get any mention I could easily put a few guys ahead of him like Chuck D or Big Pun but I like Common a bit more. Big Pun would have been higher if he didn't die.
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Oct 21, 2008 0:44:46 GMT -5
Flavor Flave!
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Oct 21, 2008 0:44:57 GMT -5
Salt and Peppa
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Post by Rocky on Oct 21, 2008 0:46:10 GMT -5
Hey Nanz, I guess it was BRB.
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Oct 21, 2008 0:56:16 GMT -5
LOLZ!
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Post by Derwin on Oct 21, 2008 0:56:52 GMT -5
no love for Talib Kweli from anyone but YB?
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Post by AllStar0608 on Oct 21, 2008 1:18:44 GMT -5
oh yea I really hate any rap that is out now Lil Wayne very talented, doesnt care about sending a messageJeezy yeezy whatever his name is new CD is greatTI always been good, new CD is epicchris brown RB Titans why is an R&B douche being mentionedh ere?game fantastic rapper and has a strong message, shoudl name drop lessetc. I think they all suck
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Post by Dave on Oct 21, 2008 1:31:14 GMT -5
oh yea I really hate any rap that is out now Lil Wayne very talented, doesnt care about sending a messageJeezy yeezy whatever his name is new CD is greatTI always been good, new CD is epicchris brown RB Titans why is an R&B douche being mentionedh ere?game fantastic rapper and has a strong message, shoudl name drop lessetc. I think they all suck I'm not surprised you like them either. I still think they all suck
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Post by AllStar0608 on Oct 21, 2008 1:41:55 GMT -5
i like pretty much every rapper listed in this thread.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Oct 21, 2008 10:11:12 GMT -5
No one has done or did what he did with American Gangster. You can't even call that an album, it's a fucking work of art. Jay-Z is NOT the first rapper to do a concept album. He's not even the best to do it. I don't really have a #1 because I don't quantify rappers like that. I think Tupac is probably the #1 of all time, because of his impact and because he basically embodies what modern rap is. But I think Biggie is a better rapper. I think Big is better than Jay-Z. I don't rank Nas at the top because I mean, he was doing songs like Oochie Wallie for a minute. Big L is a sick lyricist. Then I can't even comment on guys from the 80's and part of the early 90's because I wasn't around to assess their impact. Jay-Z is #1 solely based on longevity, creativity, and consistency. Jay-Z may not have been the first but not the best? Are you insane? Name one artist who has done a concept album like Jay-Z? Let alone just as good? You make statements but don't drop any names, kind of dumb. I don't get how you guys can't compare "American Gangster" to "Reasonable Doubt" both musically and lyrically, as well as conceptually. There are no "commercial hooks or singles" on this album and that to me is why it is such a success. The "Blueprint" album was a masterful experience, the beats are unmatched track to track, but lyrically they are no where near the caliber of "American Gangster" or "Reasonable Doubt." Take a listen to "Reasonable Doubt" and then "American Gangster" and see if track to track there is the same consistency in the classic "Reasonable Doubt" as in "American Gangster." Name any rapper who's put out albums in the past 5-6 years at the level of Jay-Z? No one. I was never a fan of Jay-Z, to be honest until recently, though there is no denying that Jay-Z has dominated all scenes of the hip-hop industry, hands-down.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Oct 21, 2008 10:14:48 GMT -5
Does anyone know who Too $hort is? Are you kidding? Lol... He's good at what he does "sexually driven raps" he's top 10 in that but no way he should even be named in a top 10 rappers of all-time list.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Oct 21, 2008 10:20:27 GMT -5
no love for Talib Kweli from anyone but YB? Talib Kweli commercialized himself after "Reflection Eternal" and disappointed alot of fans. Although "Ear Drum" was a pleasant surprise and he definitely took it back to his roots. Same as Common. If you guys want to go in the "underground" circuit tip then my list changes entirely. You'd have to discuss guys like MF Doom Sage Francis Immortal Technique Tech N9ne The Roots Mos Def Dead Prez Brother Ali Murs Aesop Rock Atmosphere Jean Grae Heltah Skeltah D.I.T.C Termanology Necro Ill Bill Naledge Statik Skeltah Masta Ace Edgar Allan Floe Canibus Royce Da 5'9" Now On etc...
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Post by Dave on Oct 21, 2008 10:35:32 GMT -5
Does anyone know who Too $hort is? Are you kidding? Lol... He's good at what he does "sexually driven raps" he's top 10 in that but no way he should even be named in a top 10 rappers of all-time list. I don't recall naming him in any top 10 list
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