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Post by dj on Dec 30, 2008 20:24:43 GMT -5
It isnt complicated... the problem is new GMs always try to tank and dont bother trying to sign quality FAs to help them win games. Not superstar FA's but, good players that you can get for MLE or slightly more that will help you win. They end up not signing anyone and then after the 3rd off season they have nobody on their roster other than a couple of developing young players.
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Post by dj on Dec 30, 2008 20:26:41 GMT -5
It goes by offseasons... it always has, so nothing has changed and nothing is wrong.
If spencer wants to change the rule and allow new gms an extra year he can do that, but as of right now... that isnt the case.
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Post by DB on Dec 30, 2008 20:28:19 GMT -5
But that does not make sense.
The rule says you have three losing seasons and then in the 4th year you go to your contract year...
If you count it, 2013 losing, 14 losing, 15 losing, 16 would be his contract year.
How do you add another losing season when they start in the off season? They can not be counted for the previous season since they were not the gm.
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Dec 30, 2008 20:28:21 GMT -5
It should be 4 seasons of not winning 40 and thats that.
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Post by DB on Dec 30, 2008 20:30:32 GMT -5
2001 - 38-44
2002 - 38-44
2003 - 35-47
2004 - 53-29
2005 - 37-45
2006 - 34-48
2007 - 43-39
2008 - 34-48
2009 - 32-50
--------------------GM CHANGE
2010 - 35-47
2011 - 28-54
2012 - 38-44
--------------------Contract Year Victim #1...GM CHANGE
2013 - 39-43
2014 - 33-49
2015 - 36-46
2016 - 29-53
--------------------GM CHANGE
This is what you have in the team direction board...
Which is wrong. We have not simmed the 2016 season, we are still looking for the 2015 champion... something is wrong in your years.
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Post by Rocky on Dec 30, 2008 20:32:04 GMT -5
Yeah, this is absurd. Without looking at how you actually worded it, I think we all can agree that the contract year is this (and simple):
Three sub-40 win seasons (without playoffs) and you enter your CY. In year 4, if you go sub-40 or miss playoffs you are fired.
This off-season stuff is garbage. You get four seasons. Don shouldn't be penalized for whatever the incredible slim/Mike combo did, and CF shouldn't be penalized for Don's last season in New Orleans. This isn't difficult.
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Post by Rocky on Dec 30, 2008 20:32:50 GMT -5
IDK how you can argue in favor of this? He had three seasons with the team. How can one season count for two different GMs? It's ridiculous.
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Post by Rocky on Dec 30, 2008 20:33:13 GMT -5
whatever the rule is.. they don't make 40 next year either. Hahaha yeah |
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Post by dj on Dec 30, 2008 20:34:42 GMT -5
But that does not make sense. The rule says you have three losing seasons and then in the 4th year you go to your contract year... If you count it, 2013 losing, 14 losing, 15 losing, 16 would be his contract year. How do you add another losing season when they start in the off season? They can not be counted for the previous season since they were not the gm. they took over at the end of the season and handled the draft/off season for that team. Every other current/established GM gets 3 off seasons and then its a contract year. This way, its the same for new gms... 3 off seasons then enter contract year. Pretty simple. - But, they didnt run the team for the full 2012-2013 season. Response - see above. + What if they would have taken over 1/4 of the way through, or half way through 2012-2013? Do they still get an extra year since they missed 1/4 of the season? Going by off seasons is the simplest/easiest way. Btw - this topic was already covered with Spence and the recently fired GMs awhile ago. PS - the dates used are not wrong. the 1st draft was the creation draft(2000). Making the 1st season, the 2000-2001season. So, if it makes you feel better, imagine the previous years date in front of the posted date like so - 2000-2001... or 2015-2016. |
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Post by Funky George! on Dec 30, 2008 21:06:47 GMT -5
LOL at this offseason bullshit. Hysterical.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Dec 30, 2008 21:12:38 GMT -5
fucked up.
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Post by easy on Dec 30, 2008 21:21:13 GMT -5
DJ hasn't done anything different if you guys haven't noticed...
and remember Spencer removed 1 year from the CY from the previous BBS.
That's probably what's confusing you guys,
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Post by Spencer on Dec 30, 2008 21:29:44 GMT -5
I think DJ and I talked about this already, but honestly I dont have time to deal with this today.
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Post by Spencer on Dec 30, 2008 21:33:29 GMT -5
When I talked to DJ I essentially said its his call. Its his job to track the CY, I dont ant any part of it. Having said this, itll be easier to just restate the rule as oppose to using off seasons as a determinant.
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Post by Spencer on Dec 30, 2008 21:34:22 GMT -5
The Contract Year
If you go 3 years without winning 40, or making the playoffs you will be fired.
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Post by Funky George! on Dec 30, 2008 21:35:06 GMT -5
The Contract YearIf you go 3 years without winning 40, or making the playoffs you will be fired. It's 4 years though. Otherwise a lot of guys would've been fired. |
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Post by Spencer on Dec 30, 2008 21:35:35 GMT -5
The Contract YearIf you go 3 years without winning 40, or making the playoffs you will be fired. It's 4 years though. Otherwise a lot of guys would've been fired. I just made a new rule. |
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Post by Spencer on Dec 30, 2008 21:36:25 GMT -5
Honestly, this is really annoying. I dont have the energy or patience to deal with this tonight.
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Post by Rocky on Dec 30, 2008 21:36:47 GMT -5
The Contract Year
If you go 3 years without winning 40, or making the playoffs you enter your "Contract Year".
Once in your "Contract Year" you must win 40 games or make the playoffs or you will be subject to dismissal.
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I'm confused?
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Post by Funky George! on Dec 30, 2008 21:39:22 GMT -5
Spence, if you're not in the mood, then don't worry about it. Just make a ruling on it later on. No need to get all angry. Everyone is just confused.
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Post by Spencer on Dec 30, 2008 21:40:18 GMT -5
I disagree with how it was interpreted by DJ. But, I told him to make the call because I have too many other responsibilities. I need to talk to DJ and come to a conclusion.
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Post by Spencer on Dec 30, 2008 21:42:34 GMT -5
My first inclination is to give CF another year in NO. Make a new rule that says that once youve been fired by the CY you get 1 less year if you return as GM. Then give CC the Celtics.
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Post by Funky George! on Dec 30, 2008 21:44:16 GMT -5
Most important thing is that we all point and laugh at DEEJ!!!
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Post by Rocky on Dec 30, 2008 21:45:41 GMT -5
I like that rule, Spence. Quiets those who bitch about CY teams getting a new team (Martinez).
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Post by Spencer on Dec 30, 2008 21:46:03 GMT -5
I think his interpretation is valid. I mean looking at offseasons is important and valid, it just doesnt make sense with how the rule is written.
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